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	Comments on: Senate candidate Sullivan shows fundamental lack of understanding of health care	</title>
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		By: Gregory Gusse		</title>
		<link>http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49714</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory Gusse]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[the fact, overlooked by everyone, is the comingling of the ideas of health care and insurance. The two are not synonymous except in such whacky notions as ACA. We never needed government subsidized insurance, we like most of all the rest of humans on this planet deserve and need universal healthcare. 

Your rude commenters who  liken preexisting health conditions to floodplain housing or lazy drivers probably support this misogynist and fish hater to boot!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fact, overlooked by everyone, is the comingling of the ideas of health care and insurance. The two are not synonymous except in such whacky notions as ACA. We never needed government subsidized insurance, we like most of all the rest of humans on this planet deserve and need universal healthcare. </p>
<p>Your rude commenters who  liken preexisting health conditions to floodplain housing or lazy drivers probably support this misogynist and fish hater to boot!</p>
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		By: Joe Barnard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Barnard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 01:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49693&quot;&gt;Brad&lt;/a&gt;.

Didn&#039;t Ayn Rand commit suicide? There might be a lesson there Brad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49693">Brad</a>.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Ayn Rand commit suicide? There might be a lesson there Brad.</p>
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		By: Joe Barnard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Barnard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 01:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obamacare just exposes Sullivan as a one percenter like Mittens Romney or Tredwell.  Why would he know about the healthcare choices for the masses if he&#039;s never had to look into it for himself?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obamacare just exposes Sullivan as a one percenter like Mittens Romney or Tredwell.  Why would he know about the healthcare choices for the masses if he&#8217;s never had to look into it for himself?</p>
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		By: Lensky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lensky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amanda.  I speak for many of your readers when I say it is dismaying to see you so self-serving as to yearn for health care you can afford.  If you want to be a real Alaskan your chief concern should be helping businesses pull as much money out of Alaska as possible while supporting politicians who wish to shrink government so it will send less money in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda.  I speak for many of your readers when I say it is dismaying to see you so self-serving as to yearn for health care you can afford.  If you want to be a real Alaskan your chief concern should be helping businesses pull as much money out of Alaska as possible while supporting politicians who wish to shrink government so it will send less money in.</p>
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		By: Amanda		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49703&quot;&gt;Arctic Urbanophile&lt;/a&gt;.

I appreciate your views @Arctic. That said, it&#039;s all for naught unless we&#039;re around and healthy enough to experience it, no?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49703">Arctic Urbanophile</a>.</p>
<p>I appreciate your views @Arctic. That said, it&#8217;s all for naught unless we&#8217;re around and healthy enough to experience it, no?</p>
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		By: Arctic Urbanophile		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arctic Urbanophile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I appreciate your analysis and personal touch in this article. I somewhat ironically remain opposed to the ACA despite being on the exchange for the better part of a year. I can appreciate the benefits the ACA brings to the under served and marginalized portions of the population--especially in terms of the relativity cost effective Medicade expansion and emphasis on preventative care. My experience on the exchange was not terrible. It was difficult to navigate, but I didn&#039;t really experience any of the horrible glitches. Going on the exchange allowed me to work as a private contractor and cut my hours from 45 a week to 38 and I appreciated having that flexibly. My problems with the ACA stem less from the practical merits and more from principle. I disagree with how the bill was rammed though congress and I believe the individual mandate is ultimately unconstitutional. While I bileve access to affordable healthcare is important, I also don&#039;t believe in subsidizing irresponsible behavior.  There are definite benefits in terms of uninsured numbers and drop in expensive emergency room visits, however, I am very much the type of person who thinks &quot;the ends justify the means&quot; mentality is a slippery slope and threatens other constitutional freedoms. In this election, health care has quite honestly faded as an important issue to me as a voter. I truly worry about the future of the state if senator Reid continues to block access to Alaska&#039;s natural resources. Natural resources are the life blood of the state for better or worse. We can debate the merits of diversifying the economy all we want, but in the near term natural resources remain the state&#039;s best economic driver--meaning we need offshore revenue sharing, access to oil on federal lands, and a less militant EPA. Health care is defiantly an issue, but reversing oil decline and providing robust economic opportunity to Alaskans is the driving issue of 214.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your analysis and personal touch in this article. I somewhat ironically remain opposed to the ACA despite being on the exchange for the better part of a year. I can appreciate the benefits the ACA brings to the under served and marginalized portions of the population&#8211;especially in terms of the relativity cost effective Medicade expansion and emphasis on preventative care. My experience on the exchange was not terrible. It was difficult to navigate, but I didn&#8217;t really experience any of the horrible glitches. Going on the exchange allowed me to work as a private contractor and cut my hours from 45 a week to 38 and I appreciated having that flexibly. My problems with the ACA stem less from the practical merits and more from principle. I disagree with how the bill was rammed though congress and I believe the individual mandate is ultimately unconstitutional. While I bileve access to affordable healthcare is important, I also don&#8217;t believe in subsidizing irresponsible behavior.  There are definite benefits in terms of uninsured numbers and drop in expensive emergency room visits, however, I am very much the type of person who thinks &#8220;the ends justify the means&#8221; mentality is a slippery slope and threatens other constitutional freedoms. In this election, health care has quite honestly faded as an important issue to me as a voter. I truly worry about the future of the state if senator Reid continues to block access to Alaska&#8217;s natural resources. Natural resources are the life blood of the state for better or worse. We can debate the merits of diversifying the economy all we want, but in the near term natural resources remain the state&#8217;s best economic driver&#8211;meaning we need offshore revenue sharing, access to oil on federal lands, and a less militant EPA. Health care is defiantly an issue, but reversing oil decline and providing robust economic opportunity to Alaskans is the driving issue of 214.</p>
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		By: Garand Fellow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Garand Fellow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49693&quot;&gt;Brad&lt;/a&gt;.

Ms. Coyne, 

I am very sorry but Brad is correct according to my view.  When the condition is pre-existing (so-called) then what we call coverage is no more insurance than is coverage purchased for a house that is already burning.  There is no actuarial arithmetic to apply to an event that has already occurred.   If it is pre-existing it is not insurance but it might be a device to avoid the cost personally.

But I try to be philosophical about ObamaCare.  I know a fellow who has managed a tiny business for about 30 years; 15 to 20 employees, through a succession of ownerships and other changes at the business.  For all that time he has almost always worked 7 days a week even though he has never owned the business.   Health insurance was a problem for the business and expensive for him personally (although he is paid well through commissions on big-ticket items).  Now, so far as he can see ObamaCare has solved that problem.  This fellow can see that we are living on borrowed time and money borrowed from China, and that entitlement promises to disabled vets, Social Security enrollees and others cannot be met unless dollars become worth even less (and lose more buying power).  But his attitude is that the government gives government employees, welfare recipients, and many others (I will say inner city people but he uses another term) subsidized health care so he and his family, and those employees deserve their share as private sector workers who pay taxes.  He says when the inner city people appear at their doorstep after it all breaks down, he and his employees have lots of ammunition.     If needs be, and after all the deer are shot, they can come up with recipes for cooking those inner city people I suppose.  Thanks to petroleum money, we in Alaska have been insulated from many Lower 48 realities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49693">Brad</a>.</p>
<p>Ms. Coyne, </p>
<p>I am very sorry but Brad is correct according to my view.  When the condition is pre-existing (so-called) then what we call coverage is no more insurance than is coverage purchased for a house that is already burning.  There is no actuarial arithmetic to apply to an event that has already occurred.   If it is pre-existing it is not insurance but it might be a device to avoid the cost personally.</p>
<p>But I try to be philosophical about ObamaCare.  I know a fellow who has managed a tiny business for about 30 years; 15 to 20 employees, through a succession of ownerships and other changes at the business.  For all that time he has almost always worked 7 days a week even though he has never owned the business.   Health insurance was a problem for the business and expensive for him personally (although he is paid well through commissions on big-ticket items).  Now, so far as he can see ObamaCare has solved that problem.  This fellow can see that we are living on borrowed time and money borrowed from China, and that entitlement promises to disabled vets, Social Security enrollees and others cannot be met unless dollars become worth even less (and lose more buying power).  But his attitude is that the government gives government employees, welfare recipients, and many others (I will say inner city people but he uses another term) subsidized health care so he and his family, and those employees deserve their share as private sector workers who pay taxes.  He says when the inner city people appear at their doorstep after it all breaks down, he and his employees have lots of ammunition.     If needs be, and after all the deer are shot, they can come up with recipes for cooking those inner city people I suppose.  Thanks to petroleum money, we in Alaska have been insulated from many Lower 48 realities.</p>
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		By: Brad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amanda, you have asked the public to pay for your known, future medical payments therefore it is not insurance it is a prepayment.  You cannot insure known outcomes.

Should bad drivers, lazy careless homeowners pay the same rate as good safe drivers and thoughtful, proactive homeowners?  HELL NO!  Why should health insurance be any different?  Smokers, drinkers, people who do not exercise, over eat, eat bad diets, and drink soda pay the same premiums as healthy people which is the same as drunks paying the same rates as safe drivers.

Sorry about your health issues, insurance is not the right solution for your health problems.  Just as the folks that live in flood planes and have their homes flood every couple years we have a special federal program for them. 

That is probably a far better solution the screwing up health insurance for the other 80 percent of people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, you have asked the public to pay for your known, future medical payments therefore it is not insurance it is a prepayment.  You cannot insure known outcomes.</p>
<p>Should bad drivers, lazy careless homeowners pay the same rate as good safe drivers and thoughtful, proactive homeowners?  HELL NO!  Why should health insurance be any different?  Smokers, drinkers, people who do not exercise, over eat, eat bad diets, and drink soda pay the same premiums as healthy people which is the same as drunks paying the same rates as safe drivers.</p>
<p>Sorry about your health issues, insurance is not the right solution for your health problems.  Just as the folks that live in flood planes and have their homes flood every couple years we have a special federal program for them. </p>
<p>That is probably a far better solution the screwing up health insurance for the other 80 percent of people.</p>
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		By: crystalwolf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crystalwolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49680&quot;&gt;Joeblow&lt;/a&gt;.

Ummm since your GOV refused to expand Medicare, you need to elected a NEW Gov!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49680">Joeblow</a>.</p>
<p>Ummm since your GOV refused to expand Medicare, you need to elected a NEW Gov!</p>
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		By: crystalwolf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crystalwolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49686&quot;&gt;fielding mellish&lt;/a&gt;.

Run for Senate then!?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://amandacoyne.com/politics/senate-candidate-sullivan-shows-fundamental-lack-of-understanding-of-health-care/#comment-49686">fielding mellish</a>.</p>
<p>Run for Senate then!?</p>
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